Hear me out.
I'm not voting for him mind you, just like I will not vote for Romney or Gingrich, or any of the other Dead Elephant frontrunners.
Ron Paul has made great strides since 2008. It is more than certain though, that the Dead Elephant establishment will not allow him the nomination. We are looking at a Romney GOP candidate. Maybe Gingrich, but probably Romney, if he doesn't blow it somehow.
I mean, even Israel is forming a PAC against Dr. Paul. Funny. I don't recall that any nation should have any business influencing American politics. I mean, would we allow a Chinese PAC to get overtly involved in American politics? Anyway, I digress.
With this, a likely Dead Elephant (Romney) GOP candidate in mind, look here for a breakdown of who is pulling the strings of the Romney and Obama.
Now, 'splain to me the objective difference again. The name behind the letter means nothing.
Anyone that owned by international capital, banksters, whatever, belongs running a bank, not the united States of America.
I would propose, however, that there is one significant difference between the two candidates, in the long view.
2016.
Romney 2012 puts a NeoCon in power, and will necessarily energize the political "right" to support a more-or-less Marxist, liberal Dead Elephant (Romney) in 2016. Romney is a Marxist. He is. Look at Massachusetts' healthcare and education systems, and tell me he is not.
Obama 2012 leaves an outgoing president Obama in 2016, a divided and fractious Democrat party trying to sort out its frontman, and a pissed-off electorate after 4 years under Obama with a George Bush Jr.-style "mandate from the voters" syndrome.
In the short term, Romney offers no advantage to the American people or to those who value liberty. Romney 2012 will hurt our nation in the long run.
In the medium/long term, an Obama victory in 2012 will likely advance the cause of liberty.
This will come either through government over-reach and the resultant backlash, or a Ron Paul-esque candidate sweeping the field in 2016.
Either way, regular readers know that I fully expect Obama to be re-elected.
Maybe, in the long term, that's exactly what this country needs.
I'll catch some flak for saying this, but a vote for Romney in 2012 will hurt liberty substantially more in the long run than an Obama 2012 vote ever could.
Either way.
Buy a gun instead.
Resist.
I'll catch some flak for saying this, but a vote for Romney in 2012 will hurt liberty substantially more in the long run than an Obama 2012 vote ever could.
ReplyDeleteThat's why, if Mittens gets the nomination, I'll be writing in Sarah Palin...and, naturally, I'm being told that's a wasted vote.
As if a vote for Rollover Romney will change one damn thing.
295 days until November 6. 2012 - Buy a Gun Day.
ReplyDeleteJust $2 per day will put you in the gun shop with $590.
$590 will allow you to choose from a nice selection of firearms, my friends.
And I must agree with the analysis that President Obama is better for Liberty than President Romney. Collapse will come faster with President Obama, and we can get to the business of clearing away the mess.
The number one argument I am hearing for Romney here in DC is that he will get to select Supreme Court Justices, and his choices will be better than Obama's.
My position: I have no intention of abiding unconstitutional decisions of the Court, no matter who appoints them, so it doesn't matter.
295 days. $590 dollars.
Kerodin
III
I believe you are correct. I know I'm done throwing my vote away on the lesser of two evils. Little good comes from that strategy.
ReplyDeleteVote for the Bolsheviks or the Mensheviks if you like. One may abstain also. I refuse to participate in a farce.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your analysis of Obama's continuity from 12 to 16. I think that a Democratic administration will speed up the economic collapse, one result of which will help fill constitutionalist ranks.
ReplyDeleteThat may result in an opportunity for Rand Paul to capitalize on the base laid by his father's efforts. He has the same agenda as his father, but is a more charismatic communicator.
I was thinking of this strategy 12yrs ago! Looking back I think time has proven the point!
ReplyDeleteA post of mine on TFL:
"If you've studied guerilla warfare or the tactics of insurgency you know that sometimes the best way to destroy a regime and it's ideology is to actively support the worst elements of it.
If not, you've no doubt heard lines such as "lose the battle to win the war" and "to save the village we must destroy it"
We've seen a recognizable groundswell of new support from the recently apathetic and the once fence sitters following 8 miserable years of the Clinton administration.
Imagine the tsunami of "born-again" freedom lovers we'd recruit once Gore's been given a chance to stir the pot.
Are we ready to lull these masses back to sleep with 4-8yrs of mediocrity and false security under the benevolent Republicans?
Idiots like Clinton, and now Gore, are their movement's own worst enemy-- far worse than benign GW Bush could ever dream of being-- and they deserve our support!
In the title I called this a long term strategy. While that may prompt a reaction of impatience (especially when compared to the instant gratification imagined with a Bush election) it is more likely the quickest means to an end. That end being a RADICAL conservative/liberitarian rebellion.
What I'm suggesting is provoking a "FREEDOM BACKLASH".
Certainly we could weather the storm (with fingers crossed *hoping* for the imposition of confiscatory taxes, further international embarassment, the continued unchecked thugery of their blossoming police state, etc) because when it passed we could realize a change not possible through any other means. Definately not possible under the current one step forward, two steps back dualocracy.
Your "outside-the-box" thoughts and comments welcomed and appreciated."
There weren't too many "outside-the-box" thinkers there, or at that time.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29521
I agree 100%.
ReplyDeleteThe 2016 elections??? That's about the most optimistic thing I've heard in a while. And the way things are going, even that's not so optimistic.
ReplyDeleteDon't think it matters who becomes POTUS in 2012 at this point in terms of the tyranny being shoved up my arse.
ReplyDeleteAside from that AP is pretty much spot on.
Now it would be great to be wrong, and mittens turns out to be a representative of we the people. Have to say with sincerity romney certainly fits the standard of a bonified elite member of the culture of corruption he looks to be under that veneer of political bullshit.
obama is an entirely different critter. You gets what yous see with this crook. Thing to keep in mind there are two mitigating truths with both of them. Money, and lots of it, meaning everyone else's money, prosperity actually. And guns.
Lets not beat around the bush. Everything these elites do revolves ultimately about money and guns. Money is the grease. And the requirements of greasing the skids of personal moral and political corruption are immense. The only sums vast enough exists as a product of productive Americans. But it is guns that give these elites their power to enforce their will. It is guns that they fear. It is guns that they must, if they are to obtain absolute power, posses in order to rule with an iron fist. It is guns that they must take from the populous in order obtain that absolute power. It is guns they understand, as no other people, that are the real power behind anything. It is guns this system of government now lives by. It is guns that they use to enforce everything.
It is guns our founders foresaw as the ultimate line of defense of our Liberty against tyranny.
It is guns in the hands of We The People that the elites fear most.
Any thing else is a cheap side show.
So who is worth my vote?
For what that decision is worth might as well flip a coin.
I believe that the loss of cultural and demographic homogeneity has made the balkanization of America inevitable. Some here might have read Thomas Chittum's "Civil War Two". Those who have not, should. If twere' done, twere' best done soon, to paraphrase Shakespeare. In other words, what cannot fly should fall, and what is falling, we should still push, and say, "fall faster"!
ReplyDeleteIn the spirit of Cloward-Pivens (I believe I have that correct), where can I go, as a middle-aged middle-class white male with a family -- where can I go to find out what Gubbment handout entitlements I may be eligable for?
ReplyDeleteThis may be a good subject for a post soon.
B Woodman
III-per
DAMN I'm glad to see folks coming around!
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU for putting this in terms others can understand!
(1) At this point, if I can't vote for Ron Paul I'll be voting for "Let's get this s**t OVER WITH!" - AKA "Ob@ma."
(2) BWoodman said "...In the spirit of Cloward-Pivens (I believe I have that correct), where can I go, as a middle-aged middle-class white male with a family -- where can I go to find out what Gubbment handout entitlements I may be eligable for?
This may be a good subject for a post soon..."
YESYESYES!!
JOIN THE FREE SH!+ ARMY!!
Why should The Enemy get all our hard-earned dollars?
Why not get SOME of what they've stolen from us BACK!
Better yet, just THINK of the delicious irony of using the $$ from the FSA to buy a nice M1A, some cases of ammo or other gear or supplies you may need someday!
Sorry - but at THIS point you've got to be some special sort of stupid to leave ANY money on the table!
Get all you can, help crash the system and enhance your preparedness at the same time!
WOOT!
God help us - and GOD SAVE OUR REPUBLIC!!
I'll be voting for Ron Paul - period. If he gets the nomination, fine. If he doesn't, he'll be my write-in choice, as he will be for millions of other Paul supporters. Far as I'm concerned, there is no other choice, and if Paul isn't elected, doesn't matter who else is.
ReplyDeleteAnd I already have enough guns and ammo - just waiting for a good chance to select good targets. Even our Founders knew this would happen eventually. Semper Fi!
I don't know what the best choice among so many bad ones might be, I am just not that smart.
ReplyDeleteI am still going to work for Ron Paul because as that SoB Churchill put our current condition so well ;
"you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival."
This so perhaps in some play of long odds we will not have to address this:
"There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
Bah who am I kidding we already are there.
Just do the economic math. It doesn't matter who you vote for - the candidates are just fighting over who gets to sit in the pilot's seat as the plane hits the mountain.
ReplyDeleteIf the Obamessiah wins, we hit it on afterburner; if Mittens wins, we hit it at Full Military Power.
It doesn't matter much who wins.
@Anonymous: "In the spirit of Cloward-Pivens (I believe I have that correct), where can I go, as a middle-aged middle-class white male with a family -- where can I go to find out what Gubbment handout entitlements I may be eligable for?"
ReplyDeleteYou needn't worry where you and your family can go. In due time you (and many of us) will be forced to report there. It will either be an isolated clearing in the woods or a remote site with good rail access. Don't worry, though. The process is quick - from arrival to oblivion in less than an hour.