John Robb takes a "Global Guerrillas" approach to analyzing the brewing Israeli/Iran conflict.
He makes some good points.
I think that Iran is likely to use systems disruption against its opponents as a weapon. Makes sense. Are you ready for sleepers in your cites? Ready for the government crackdown that will follow, with or without attacks? Ready for another round of inflation and price hikes on fuel and everything that is moved by it?
I also agree that it's crunch time in Iran. Economic hardship (via sanctions, which hurt the "little people" most) is afoot, and their scientists are being assassinated.
I believe that there will be sufficient pretext for the US / Israel coalition to attack Iran shortly. This could also take a Libya-esque track, where the US / Israeli / NATO / whatever coalition provokes and encourages "regime change", and blasts all of the legitimate sitting government's defenses into scrap metal.
At least that would require very little US blood. Just a lot of money. Which we don't have.
We'd let all those people "over there" die to accomplish the US / Israeli / whomever coalition's will.
But remember, repeat after me (and G. Bush, and Obama, etc., etc.):
"They hate us because of our freedoms, not because of our actions. They have no reason to attack us other than a desire to die for their religion."
Keep believing that. Keep being one of those people who "mistrust-the-government-unless-they-want-to-fight-people-we-don't-like".
Question- If they hate us 'cuz we're free, why hit the WTC and Pentagon? Why not the Statue of Liberty? Why not that cesspool of filth and degeneracy, Hollywood? If they were after maximum American casualties, why not an NFL game? Much higher ROI.
They hit the world trade center because it is symbolic of the corrupt and criminal American financial system that has not only wreaked havoc here, but also the world over. They hit the Pentagon because it is the symbol of American military power, used the world over to "rain democracy" down on those who don't want it.
They attacked the symbols of American financial and military power, not the symbols of American "cultural freedom" (read-degeneracy) and liberty.
A lot about this whole deal stinks to high heaven, and it's really, really bothering me (as if you couldn't tell...).
Anyone ever look into who buys the debt to finance these foreign wars? Anyone wonder about that besides me? Who would buy near-worthless US debt to back a war we can't afford?
This whole deal stinks. We are in the age of perpetual war.
-End of rant-
It's not a rant if it's true.They desperately need this war.As a diversion.As a destabilization.As a pretext.As a justification.As a profit center.
ReplyDeleteThere are a thousand reasons the oligarchy need this war,and not one of them is national defense as you and I define it.
If there aren't sleeper cells to go active,have no fear,our fed.gov will supply them.
This is further proof of the Fabian Socialist agenda,summed up by a poem:
Ah love! could you and I with Him conspire To grasp this sorry scheme of things entire, Would not we shatter it to bits - and then Re-mold it nearer to the heart's desire!
- Omar Khayyam
They are shattering the whole scheme to bits.As we speak.
Any guesses as to the Him the socialists are looking to for help?
Yeah,didn't think so...By their fruits ye shall know them.
I am pretty isolated from the news here but the whole thing just seems ridiculous to me. Seriously them threatening to shut down the strait of Hormuz (maybe spelled wrong) is like me threatening to open hand face slap Brock Lesner at a party full of his friends. It would hurt him a bit for a second then I would be in a world of pain.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of what happens Iran is not going to get any sympathy from me. (I mean their government and military, a taxi driver or a farmer or a shop keeper are just people anywhere) I knew folks killed by bombs Iran made and sent to Iraq to kill American soldiers. That, at a minimum puts them on the no sympathy list if not the needs their teeth kicked in list.
I look at it like I look at a pimp or a crack dealer any other total scumbag. I am not saying that people should hurt them but I don't shed any tears if it happens.
Personally I do not think we will get involved in anything overt with them unless they are stupid enough to ask for a whole heeping spoonfull of regime change by shutting down the strait of Hormuz. Time will tell I guess.
Don't leave Russia out of your equation:
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Likewise, ask yourself how regime change (or not) would affect China since Iranian oil is of great concern to them as well.
A lot of players/factors on the global stage many people are leaving out...cui bono...cui bono...
...creating justification to try their new "laws" here at home...rest assured,if not iran, it will be someone/somewhere else...if the tide keeps rising for ron paul,it'll happen before the (s)election,so we'll know soon enuff i suppose...
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ReplyDeleteI agree with you. Russia is, IMO, a huge player here, if not the biggest. They are much less joined to the US than is China.
And I do not think they are playing at all.
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Some are saying that regime change begins at home. http://www.jbcampbellextremismonline.com/3/post/2011/09/first-post.html
ReplyDeleteIt's not Iran, it's Islam. Iran and all the mideast bullshit is a direct result of islam and its mad mullahs. Ann Coulter had it right - take their oil and convert them to Christianity!
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ReplyDeleteSpoken like a true jihadi.
Iran is not Islam, it is a geopolitical entity using and distorting Islam for legitimacy.
Islam is not the problem. People who distort religions for personal gain and agendas are the problem.
Many American NeoCon Christians are just as hungry for blood in the mideast as are the most fervent jihadists. They are using their religion to justify war with Iran.
Jihad is not just an Islamic concept.
AP
Jihadi my ass, just a pissed off old man who sees a lot of the bad crap done by muslims and justified by their faith. It's been pointed out that islam has bloody borders and does not play well with others. I don't see neocon Christians blowing up the local synagogue or cathedral, but it happens all the time over there.
ReplyDeleteI see Neocon Christians blowing up things all the time. They use state-of-the art munitions, while the people you speak of use what they can afford.
ReplyDeleteThe antecedents of Christians (according to Christians), Israel, had bloody borders, too.
Lots of worse things are recorded in the Bible. Justified by religion. Everything you throw at Islam, you must likewise throw at all Abrahamic faiths. That gets messy.
Its funny how many anti-jihadists teach their children about the Israelites' jihad in the promised land, as if it were a good thing.
God's will and all.
The US is trying to make its will followed around the globe. They are using anti-jihad programming and terrorist bogeymen to gain public support.
I don't see anyone clamoring for Saudi blood "'cuz dey's mooslems"...
It's working.
AP
Sorry, guess I wasn't clear, most of the 9/11 assholes were Saudi and they are as bad as the rest. We should have done them first. When islam has gone through some enlightenment, as has christianity, maybe we can all get along. In the meantime, we should get the hell out of the M.E. and let them kill each other off. Israel deserves support, but the rest can go to hell and soon.
ReplyDeleteSo AP what is tour solution or what do you think should ir can be done with thw Iranian nuke problem?
ReplyDeleteThere is no "solution" to the Iranian nuke "problem".
ReplyDeleteControlling Iran's nukes is nothing less than the equivalent of gun control on an international scale.
"We can't let them have those things because they could maybe possibly someday use them to be bad..."
Sound familiar?
The same folks who claim all humans have the natural right to self defense and the tools of war would deny them to entire nations. We're in a nuclear world. Let's face it. We're killing all kinds of Pakistanis, they have nukes, yet we're ignoring them. We're ignoring North Korea as well.
You cannot convince me that a nation that has a missile defense system capable of defending against a USSR/Russian or Chinese attack has no chance of defending against a budding nuclear Iran.
The united States have no business meddling in the affairs and the national defense of sovereign nations. None.
So what would I do about the Iranian nuclear "problem"?
Nothing.
It's not a problem.
All we can do by meddling is make things worse.
The potential strike has been brought about by sanctions. Sanctions are ineffective at doing anything but provoking internal unrest. Internal unrest is happening.
Perhaps this is about the "Arab Spring" and a US/Israeli desired regime change more than it is about nukes and Hormuz.
Look.
We armed Iraq in a fight against Iran. Iraq used NBC in that war. OF COURSE Iran hates us. Then, a while later, we fought Iraq, who we armed. Twice.
We armed the Mujahadeen against the Soviets. Guess what?
We're fighting those folks, or their children, right now.
Americans must be really, really stupid.
AP
There is a big problem in your analysis.
ReplyDeleteAP what would you do if you had a neighbor, that didn't have a gun, but said he was going to buy a gun a then come to your house and shoot your wife and kids?
Because that is the problem we have with the leadership in Iran. Their stated goal is to whipe out the Little and Big Satan.
So, I would agree with you if I believed they wanted it for defense, and not as a weapon to bring back the 12 the Imam.
So, I don't care if you think they're practicing true Islam or not, because they would disagree with you on that. We had the chance to help the Iranian Green movement, as the French helped us with ours.
I'm trying to figure you out AP. You once made the comment that you never wanted the cycle of Violent Revolution to stop, as it was a cleansing force (paraphrasing)us, but it not good for the rest of the world?
I would rather fight them on their soil, then ours...
And, I tend to take people at their word when they say they want to kill me.
Hmmm....
Also for your consideration did you read or hear about this.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/santorum-constitution-and-declaration_617157.html
Also Resist is to reactive I like Plan better.
Plan
I don't think Americans are stupid, but there sure is something in the water in D.C.
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